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RightWing Rhetoric From The Freeloader Foundation

by TwoPuttTommy on February 11, 2010 · 8 comments

I read the Freeloader “Freedom” Foundation’s newest “report” – and I put “report” in quotation marks, because….well, because it isn’t a “report.”  It’s RightWing Rhetoric, designed to get their benefactors more of what they want – which is a smaller tax burden.  The “report” claims that folk are fleeing the frozen tundra for areas that, and I quote:  ”taxes are lower (especially income taxes), union membership is lower, population density is higher, the cost of housing is lower, and the weather is warmer.

Yeah, “right.”

I checked in with my brother, a graduate of the University of Florida (Go, Gators!!!) and an appraiser with many years of experience in that state’s real estate market.  His reaction?

“Yeah, ‘right.’”

Ladies and Gentlemen, Florida is in a bust (it’s beyond ‘bear’) market.  Go google “florida population decline” and see the hits you get – I did.  My brother merely confirmed what I already knew; that the Freeloader “Freedom” Foundation Minnesota was merely tryin’ to sell some more of that ol’ RightWingSnakeOil, referred to as VooDoo Economics by Bush The Elder (before Uncle Ronnie took him to the woodshed).

If folk are fleeing the frozen tundra due to excessive taxation (and that’s a BIG “IF”), the fact is they’re fleeing Florida ’cause The Republican Recession put that state’s economy in the cr@pper.

Well, this state’s economy, too.

OK, The Republican Recession put the whole (cheney)in’ country’s economy in the cr@pper.  And those GOPers dam near melted the world’s economy, too.  Essentially, all those years of GOPers in the driver’s seat ruined everything.  But, that’s a tangent.  Back to the  Freeloader “Freedom” Foundation Minnesota’s “report.”

Last night, while sitting in as Guest Host at AM 950 Radio, I ripped that “report” – because it is indeed bogus – and had Jeff Van Wychen from call in to give his thoughts about the Freeloader “Freedom” Foundation Minnesota’s “report.”
Jeff’s findings?

Well, Jeff said that the Freedom Foundation has done progressives a favor by identifying yet another negative trend that has hit Minnesota during the Pawlenty years: out-migration.

Specifically, Jeff talked about how since 2002, under Gov. TBag, Minnesota has “led” the nation in terms of cutting taxes, fees, charges, and all other “own-source” revenue (poperty taxes?  THAT is another story, for another day).  This being the case, out-migration in Minnesota should have diminished in Minnesota over this period – if the premise of the Freeloader “Freedom” Foundation study is correct (i.e., that high taxes cause people to migrate)

Except, during the period when Minnesota was experiencing net in-migration (1995-2001), Minnesota had higher total taxes and higher income taxes relative to the rest of the nation than they did during the period when we were experiencing net out-migration (2002-2007).  Clearly, high taxes were not the driving factor in the migration pattern.  You see, just as Minnesota was doing exactly what the Freedom Foundation now wants to do – AGAIN (cut taxes), Minnesota began experiencing negative trends in terms of out-migration and other areas.

Ruh-roh.  The Freeloader “Freedom” Foundation’s own “report” blows a big ol’ hole in the Freeloader “Freedom” Foundation’s own “report”!

Then, there’s this, according to an email Jeff sent me:

Based on the Freedom Foundation study, one of the states that Minnesotans are migrating to is California.  California has higher total taxes and higher income taxes than Minnesota.  It is clearly weather, not taxes, that is driving this migration.

Hey, that’s what The Appraiser told me about Florida, too – it’s the weather!!!  Oh – and best be retired.  Why?  Because it certainly isn’t the abundant, high-payin’ jobs that are causin’ tundra-trudgers to MOVE to Florida; it’s the LACK of abundant, high-payin’ jobs that are causing Floridians to LEAVE Florida.

I was brought up being told, often, that if you have to make stuff up to make your point, your point isn’t worth making.  

Somebody ought to tell that to the RightWingNuts over at the Freeloader “Freedom” Foundation.

Not that they’d pay attention; that’s NOT what they’re paid to do and as everyone knows, these days GOP stands for GreedOverPrinciples.

So these days, groups like the Freeloader “Freedom” Foundation are paid to put out cr@p like that last “report.”

And expect more “reports” just like ‘em; after all – that’s what they’re paid to do.

Alec February 11, 2010 at 6:04 pm

With a very few exceptions, states with the lowest income taxes have much higher incarceration rates. States with the lowest income taxes have the worst education outcomes.

There are so many societal problems that go along with the “I got mine, eff-you” mentality. Do we want to bring those problems to Minnesota?

dyna February 11, 2010 at 8:05 pm

My mom and dad bought a 99 year lease on a lot and a trailer near Naples, Florida 20 years ago. At first they came back to Minnesota for the summers, but eventually they moved their residency to Florida and after dad passed away mom stayed year round. All they had for income was social security and a small pension, but Minnesota’s unprogressive tax rates makes it tempting for even low income folks to move their residence to no or low tax states.

On the other side of the equation, the services we’ve come to expect in Minnesota are often missing in Florida. Bike/hike trails? Heck, most of their highways don’t even have gravel shoulders. Education? The best teachers leave the state due to low salaries and good luck if you’ve got a special needs kid.

dan.burns February 11, 2010 at 10:04 pm

Meeks and her sidekick, that kid that looks kind of like the Lord of the Rings character ‘Gollum,’ on TPT Wed. night puffing this report.  I thought of posting something, but realized one of the righteous folk at 2020 would likely do a much better job than I could at rebutting that s., within a day or two.  It didn’t even take him that long!

Another point is that with rich people fleeing blue states like MN to spend their money in Florida, Texas, Arizona, etc., said states should be flush and thriving, via the ‘miracle of the market.’  My understanding is that that’s not exactly the case.  

ericf February 12, 2010 at 1:19 am

Tommy, I heard the caller yesterday skeptical that Ireland has suffered from its taxophobic policies and Steve Zimmer said he didn’t have the statistics at hand. Here’s a source that says Ireland’s economy shrunk about 15%.

Alec February 12, 2010 at 2:05 am

Milton Friedman and the Chicago school of economics are the bible for Teabagger/Reganomic/tax cut and de-regulate everything. Friedman had two opportunities to test his theories and it destroyed two countries.

When we installed the new government in Chili, Milton Friedman hand picked his Chicago School students and protege’s to go down and set up Chili’s new economy. Everything was deregulated, etc. The results of being able to implement Friedman philosophy destroyed Chili’s economy and working class.

Iceland also tried implementing Chicago School philosophies, and was heavily lectured by Friedman himself. Friedman is even quoted as saying that Iceland was his idea of an economic utopia! Well, Iceland boomed for a few years, as expected, and is now crumbling and on the verge of economic collapse.

This Irish “Cameronomics” sounds a lot like Friedman. It doesn’t work, destroys economies and countries. It’s what every neo-con/teabagger/Republican thinks is the answer.

TwoPuttTommy February 12, 2010 at 2:44 am

…what Tom DeLay called “a perfect petri dish of capitalism. It’s like my Galapagos Island.”

ericf February 12, 2010 at 10:19 am

Something that gets lost in the “Celtic Tiger” story is the Irish invested heavily in education for decades. They lost a lot of educated people to emigration, but eventually they had an educated English-speaking population that worked cheaper than British, Canadians, or Americans. The prosperity was real, but it was blown in a Herbert Hoover style focus on drastic budget cuts combined with banks that were as screwed up as anything outside Iceland. In a couple years they undid 15 years of progress. If they keep the educated population they’ll eventually come back, but another wave of emigration could doom them for decades.

The Big E February 12, 2010 at 6:18 pm

The neocon morons and teenagers who were put in charge of rebuilding Iraq tried to create a pure free market economy.  They removed absolutely all government control over Iraq’s economy … basically, got rid of all the Baathists in the government.  Considering that the only way to get a government job under Sadam Hussein was to join the Baathist party … there was nobody at the tiller.

For anyone who is interested in further reading, try this Harper’s article:

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