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Chip Cravaack defends Romney’s 47% comments

by The Big E on September 21, 2012 · 5 comments

Rep. Chip Cravaack (R-MN/NH) appeared on Jason Lewis’ radio show yesterday. Cravaack defended Mitt Romney’s 47% comments and praised Paul Ryan’s budget.

After running as a Tea Party Republican, Cravaack is trying to pretend he’s a moderate now. His comments on the radio yesterday indicate he’s still the Tea Party radical he always was.

Here’s Cravaack defending Romney’s horrid 47% gaffe:

He might have said it a little clumsily, we’ve all been there.  You think you’re surrounded by a group of friends, you don’t think somebody’s got a video camera on you, so you might not weigh your words as carefully as you should… what he meant was, 47% of Americans don’t have incomes high enough to qualify to pay taxes… Only 50% of Americans that file actually pay taxes, so only 50% pay taxes.

Yes, that’s how Cravaack spins what Romney said. Here’s what Romney said:

There are 47 percent of the people who will vote for the president no matter what. All right, there are 47 percent who are with him, who are dependent upon government, who believe that they are victims, who believe the government has a responsibility to care for them, who believe that they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing, to you-name-it. That that’s an entitlement. And the government should give it to them. And they will vote for this president no matter what…These are people who pay no income tax.

Romney went on: “[M]y job is is not to worry about those people. I’ll never convince them they should take personal responsibility and care for their lives.”
(Mother Jones)

Half of America are not moochers. Some are retired and living on social security after paying into it for their entire lives.

The rest have payroll taxes deducted from their paychecks.

The Rick Nolan campaign released the following statement:

“Romney’s comments were not merely a ‘clumsily’ speech, they were a candid explanation of an ideology which puts millionaires and billionaires first and working families and seniors last,” said 8th district congressional candidate Rick Nolan.  ”Congressman Cravaack’s statements yesterday show a complete lack of understanding of the constituents he was elected to represent.  Does he not know that the 50% he speaks of are working families, seniors and members of the military, or does he just not care?  Given his support of the Ryan plan which guts Medicare and gives tax breaks to the wealthiest Americans, it’s not surprising that Congressman Cravaack would share Romney’s view on the 47% of Americans, but our district and our country deserve better.”


Here’s Cravaack praising Paul Ryan:

Explaining how strong his Tea Party roots are:

give2attain September 21, 2012 at 6:19 am

“Half of America are not moochers. Some are retired and living on social security after paying into it for their entire lives. The rest have payroll taxes deducted from their paychecks.”

If payroll taxes are truly a tax, then social security payments truly are gov’t funded welfare for the retired.

If they are forcefully collected savings and insurance payments, then the contributors deserve and are owed something back for their investment. (ie an annuity)

Which is it?

If it is forced savings / insurance, then why do you keep inferring it is some excessive tax on the poor?  The gov’t seemingly decided that private folks could not be relied on to save for their own retirement and disability, therefore they took control of the collection and disbursement.

http://www.taxpolicycenter.org

Of course the mandatory savings rates and insurance premiums are going up.  The earlier investors did not pay enough, returns were to low and healthcare costs are going up faster than expected.

The Big E September 21, 2012 at 8:51 am

give2attain September 21, 2012 at 4:53 pm

Especially since I support letting all the Bush Tax cuts lapse. Those that help the poor, middle class and wealthy.  We have to get the National Debt under control through cuts and revenue increases. We owe it to our children.

Now are Payroll taxes really a Tax from your perspective? (ie funding an optional government program) Or is it forced savings and insurance? (ie saver/premium payer gets money back)    

Richard September 24, 2012 at 8:19 am

I find it telling of the whole crop of GOP candidates that Cravaack can so completely get the major fact of a arguement wrong in a excuse for his party’s candidates impricisely stated view of the poor.  I’m sure when called on it, Chipper will say he meant income tax and that poor folks pay sales tax and property tax as well as paying into SS and Medicare.  But that’s not what he said.  He said 50% of people don’t pay taxes.  That’s factually wrong but more insidiuously, it demonizes the poor.  I’m beginning to think that these misstatements are not slips of the tongue, but purposeful framing of a political position in order to manipulate people’s voting. Manipulating people is sadly easier then convincing people.  Especially if your position is to rig the game so that 2% profit enorminously and the rest are left with just enough to keep them working.  

Richard September 24, 2012 at 8:19 am

I find it telling of the whole crop of GOP candidates that Cravaack can so completely get the major fact of a arguement wrong in a excuse for his party’s candidates impricisely stated view of the poor.  I’m sure when called on it, Chipper will say he meant income tax and that poor folks pay sales tax and property tax as well as paying into SS and Medicare.  But that’s not what he said.  He said 50% of people don’t pay taxes.  That’s factually wrong but more insidiuously, it demonizes the poor.  I’m beginning to think that these misstatements are not slips of the tongue, but purposeful framing of a political position in order to manipulate people’s voting. Manipulating people is sadly easier then convincing people.  Especially if your position is to rig the game so that 2% profit enorminously and the rest are left with just enough to keep them working.  

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